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My guest is Sam Harris, Ph.D. Sam earned his bachelor’s degree in philosophy from Stanford University and his doctorate (Ph.D.) in neuroscience from the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA). He is the author of multiple best-selling books and is a world-renowned public-facing intellectual on meditation, consciousness, free will, psychedelics and neuroscience. He is also the creator of Waking Up and the host of the "Making Sense" podcast. In this episode, we discuss meditation as a route to understanding “the self” and experiencing consciousness, not just changing one’s conscious state. Sam describes several meditation techniques and their benefits, including how meditation fundamentally changes our worldview and how it can be merged seamlessly into daily life. It can help us overcome universal challenges such as distractibility and persistent, internal dialogue (“chatter”) to allow for deep contentment and pervasive shifts in our awareness, all while acknowledging the more immediate stress-lowering and memory-improving effects of meditation. We also discuss the therapeutic use of psychedelics and the mechanistic similarities between the benefits of a psychedelic journey and long-term meditation practices. And we discuss the rationale behind Sam’s recent decision to close his social media (Twitter) account. This episode should interest anyone wanting to learn more about the higher order functions of the brain, the brain-body connection, consciousness and, of course, meditation and why and how to meditate for maximum benefit. For the full show notes, visit hubermanlab.com. Thank you to our sponsors AG1: https://athleticgreens.com/huberman LMNT: https://drinklmnt.com/huberman Momentous: https://www.livemomentous.com/huberman Huberman Lab Premium https://hubermanlab.com/premium Timestamps (00:00:00) Dr. Sam Harris  (00:04:54) Sponsor: LMNT (00:08:54) Sense of Self & Meditation, Dualism of Self (00:18:07) Sense of Self in Brain & Body  (00:25:28) Consciousness vs. Contents, Meditation (00:28:25) Interrupting Sense of Self & Attentional Focus, Visual Saccade  (00:33:30) Observer & Actor, Default Mode Network & Meditation, Blind Spot (00:36:52) Sponsor: AG1 (00:41:57) Mediation & Paths to Understanding Consciousness, Non-Dualistic Experience (00:57:32) Sense of Self throughout Evolution  (01:07:40) Sense of Self from Human Development, Language (01:19:46) Internal Dialogue, Distractibility & Mindfulness  (01:26:27) Time Perception & Mindfulness, Vipassana Meditation, Resistance & Pain (01:37:13) Consciousness & Sense of Control, Free Will (01:43:14) Authoring Thoughts: Storytelling & Ideas, Free Will (01:52:11) Meditation & the Paradoxical Search for Self (02:06:44) Meditation & Concentration Practice  (02:11:58) Mindfulness, “Skylike Mind” & Thoughts (02:15:11) States of Self & Context, Dualistic Experiences (02:32:39) Distraction & Identification of Thoughts, Meditation & “Flow” States (02:42:58) Eyes-Open Meditations, Sense of Self, Visual Cues & Social Interactions (02:54:59) Paths to Meditation, Mindfulness Meditation Step-Functions (03:05:58) Psychedelics, MDMA & Experiences in Consciousness, Religion (03:21:11) Meditation, Psychedelic Journeys & Inner Truths (03:29:48) Psilocybin, Ego-Dissolution & Thought Expansion (03:40:09) Process vs. Achievement of Goals, Fulfillment in Present (03:54:29) Leaving Twitter; Conflict, Life Interruption & Politics  (04:06:14) Social Media, Attentional Disruption & Deep Work (04:15:39) Meditation & Sense of Self (04:19:02) Sam Harris & Waking Up App, Zero-Cost Support, YouTube Feedback, Spotify & Apple Reviews, Sponsors, Momentous, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter Disclaimer Title Card Photo Credit: Mike Blabac

My guest is Jocko Willink, a retired Navy SEAL officer and author of multiple books on effective leadership and teamwork, self-discipline and mindset, and host of the Jocko Podcast. We discuss how people can build and sculpt their identity and psychology through specific mindsets and actions and how to adapt the self to novel and challenging situations, using specific daily routines. We consider how “energy” actually stems from physical action and describe practical tools and scientific mechanisms for leveraging exercise, cold exposure, nutrition, fasting, hydration, sunlight, mindset and music to make us feel more energized and what that, in turn, does for our life. Jocko explains how discipline and specific daily routines allow for productivity and creativity. And we discuss the qualities of successful leaders, including how to build confidence and real bonds when working with a team or family/friends. Jocko describes a particularly powerful tool of using perspective shifts to allow for ‘detachment’ as a unique way to identify novel solutions to problems. We also discuss the power of early developmental narratives and how experiences of friendship, love, connection and loss can serve as pillars for making us better human beings in all aspects of life. Our conversation covers a wide range of topics, including mental health, physical health and performance, and provides actionable tools that anyone, regardless of age or profession, can apply to live a more effective and meaningful life. Access the full show notes, including referenced articles, resources and more at hubermanlab.com. Thank you to our sponsors AG1 (Athletic Greens): https://athleticgreens.com/huberman LMNT: https://drinklmnt.com/huberman Waking Up: https://www.wakingup.com/huberman Momentous: https://www.livemomentous.com/huberman Timestamps (00:00:00) Jocko Willink (00:04:07) Sponsor: LMNT & Waking Up (00:08:42) Sense of Self, Discovery & Autonomy (00:19:11) Mindsets in the Military: Garrison vs. Combat (00:25:02) Military Divisions (00:29:34) Daily Workouts & Discipline (00:31:07) Sponsor: AG1 (00:36:53) Energy & Movement, Cortisol, Nutrition (00:52:10) Exercise & Energy, Deliberate Cold Exposure (00:59:05) Win vs. Loss Mindset, Leadership, Action & Energy  (01:13:11) Confidence, Generators vs. Projectors, Family (01:24:01) Restoring Motivation: Social Connection & Play (01:32:44) Self-Identity & Context, Alcohol, Music, Dopamine (01:45:10) Motivation Sources & Recovering from Loss (01:54:05) Suicide, Navy SEALs, Social Contagion (02:09:00) Suicide, Alcohol, Positive Action  (02:15:03) Meditation, Detachment (02:20:30) Adaptability & Opportunities, Navy SEALs  (02:30:43) Ambition & Love, Likeability, Leadership (02:40:18) Building Teams, Detachment, Family (02:50:20) Detachment: Problems & Perspective (02:55:55) Tools: Strategies to Detach from Situation (03:08:31) Tool: Situational Awareness & Detachment (03:17:49) Social Media, Personal Flaws (03:23:01) Falling Asleep & Detachment (03:27:02) Resilience Calibration, Navy SEAL Training & Combat (03:39:16) Deliberate Discomfort & Mental Resilience (03:42:21) People & Animals, Personalities (03:51:25) Political Leadership & Military, Social Media (04:01:38) Zero-Cost Support, YouTube Feedback, Spotify & Apple Reviews, Sponsors, Momentous, Neural Network Newsletter, Social Media Disclaimer Title Card Photo Credit: Mike Blabac

In this episode, I explain how the brain engages in creative thinking and, based on that mechanistic understanding, the tools to improve one’s ability to think creatively and innovate in any area. I discuss how convergent and divergent thinking are essential for generating creative ideas and provide three types of meditation tools (open monitoring meditation, focused attention meditation & non-sleep deep rest; NSDR), which improve our ability to engage in these creative thinking patterns in specific and powerful ways. I also discuss how dopamine and mood contribute to the creative process and describe behavioral, nutritional and supplementation-based approaches for increasing dopamine to engage in creative thought and implementation. I explain how movement and storytelling (narrative) approaches can generate novel creative ideas and how substances like alcohol, cannabis, and psilocybin impact our creative ability. Excitingly, creativity is a skill that can be cultivated and enhanced; this episode outlines many tools to help anyone access creativity and apply creative patterns of thought to different domains of life. For the full show notes, visit hubermanlab.com. Thank you to our sponsors AG1 (Athletic Greens): https://athleticgreens.com/huberman LMNT: https://drinklmnt.com/huberman Waking Up: https://www.wakingup.com/huberman Momentous: https://www.livemomentous.com/huberman Timestamps (00:00:00) Creativity (00:04:47) Sponsors: AG1, LMNT, Waking Up (00:08:51) What is Creativity? (00:11:16) Creativity in Visual Arts, Escher & Banksy (00:23:37) Neural Circuits of Creativity (00:27:54) Sponsor: AG1 (00:33:13) Creative Ideas & Divergent Thinking (00:42:09) Testing Creative Ideas & Convergent Thinking (00:46:41) Dopamine, Convergent & Divergent Thinking Pathways (00:58:06) Tool: Open Monitoring Meditation & Divergent Thinking (01:07:38) Tool: Focused Attention Meditation & Convergent Thinking (01:11:06) Mood, Creativity & Dopamine (01:16:00) Tool: Mood Calibrating, Caffeine & Dopamine (01:23:41) Dopamine Supplementation; L-Tyrosine, Caffeine (01:30:15) Tool: Non-Sleep Deep Rest, Mesocortical Dopamine & Divergent Thinking (01:43:13) Serotonin, Psylocibin & Creative Thinking (01:49:13) Alcohol & Autobiographical Scripting; Cannabis (01:52:04) Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) & Creativity (01:54:45) Tool: Movement & Divergent Thinking (02:01:02) Tool: Narratives & Storytelling for Creativity (02:14:47) Zero-Cost Support, YouTube Feedback, Spotify & Apple Reviews, Sponsors, Momentous, Neural Network Newsletter, Social Media Disclaimer Title Card Photo Credit: Mike Blabac